Project Helium: Patrick Roy vs. Dominik Hasek Regulated Goalie Value (RGV) NHL Legends Comparison
For the first time in any of my studies, I am going to analyze former legends; I took a stroll back to 2002 and looked at a game played by Patrick Roy (then with the Colorado Avalanche) and Dominik Hasek (then with the Detroit Red Wings).
One ironic part about this study is that both of these games were played at Joe Louis Arena in Detroit, and both goalies lost.
The first game I am going to analyze is Game 7 of the 2002 Western Conference Finals, which the Avalanche lost 7-0, and Patrick Roy was pulled in the mid-way portion of the game. Let’s get the study started:
*just a reminder, I count goals by where they are shot from, not if they are tipped in.
The Scoring Recap (Detroit Goals Only)
Click on the link to see what each variable means
(1st Pd)
1:57: H+H1+H2
3:17: E+E2+E3*
10:25: E
12:51: J+J1
(2nd Pd)
4:41: E+E1
6:28 PPG: E+M
(3rd Pd)
16:09 (Does not count in this formula due to the fact that Roy had been pulled)
When all is said and done, Patrick Roy’s RGV totals up to 6.0335. That is just above one per game (his PGV is 1.006) meaning it is basically average. However, that does not mean Roy played well, considering the fact that he allowed six goals in less than half a game.
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There is one more term that I would like to introduce, that being Value Per Time (VPT).
That is used to value a goalie by the amount of goals he allows per 60 minutes of time played (same formula as the NHL uses-except VPT uses RGV scores). I can’t calculate VPT due to the fact that I need significant time played by a goalie in order to use that statistic (not sure what a minimum of time would be).
Now, it is time to compare Dominik Hasek to Patrick Roy. The game I will use is the very next game that Hasek played, which would be Game 1 of the Stanley Cup Finals, on the same ice.
Hasek also lost, however it was a close game with the Carolina Hurricanes taking the Red Wings to overtime and defeating them 3-2. It would be the Hurricanes lone win in that series.
The scoring recap (Carolina Goals Only)
(2nd Pd)
3:30 PPG: E+E3*+K
19:10: A+A1+A1xA20
(OT)
0:58: J+J13
*E3 is listed as F3 in the formula that is linked to this article
Hasek scored virtually right at three (3.007), which I found interesting due to the fact that Roy’s RGV total was 6.0335. Considering what their RGV results, both goalies had a near identical PGV, with Hasek’s checking in at 1.0022.
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The formula as a whole always seems to even itself out (when adding up all goals), due to the fact that one offsets another. Due to the fact that I have lowered the value of some of the variables, it seems as though the outcomes are leveling out.
Overall, this formula is starting to take shape. Considering that the playing field is closer to even with the adjusted variables, it is going to be easier to acquire legitimate results from RGV.
I have been questioning myself as to whether to add a variable or two, however that could be a bit down the road.
Next: RGV Study: Corey Crawford vs Antti Niemi
So far, RGV has been the most accurate formula of the three, just due to the fact that it has the greatest ability to input a high amount of information.
There will be more formulas on the way, but it might not be for a while. Expect more articles soon.
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